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    paulnamida last edited by Jan 17, 2020, 12:16 PM

    Here I hope we get to see that video about the PKs getting crushed by the Superiors.

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    • Paul Nebeling
      Paul Nebeling Premium Member last edited by Jan 17, 2020, 11:19 PM

      @paulnamida I really want to watch Shu level the forest. Just to see how much effort the animators put into it.

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        Jason Maranto last edited by Jan 23, 2020, 3:54 PM

        UGH! we have entered the level of bad that I previously reserved for the Master of Ragnarok anime adaptation. I feel so sorry for the author...

        I doubt J-Novel Club will see much of a bump for Dendro from this anime.

        https://ncode.syosetu.com/n5947gj/

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        • jcochran
          jcochran @Paul Nebeling last edited by Jan 23, 2020, 6:07 PM

          @paul-nebeling Well, didn't see a whole lot of the forest being leveled. But then again, in the novel, neither did anyone else. The cameras up close got destroyed immediately after all, so only those camera far away survived to actually show anything. So far the anime seems to be faithfully following the novel.

          Morning and Mourning sound alike for good and sufficient reasons.

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          • myskaros
            myskaros Staff last edited by Jan 23, 2020, 6:38 PM

            I have no problem with the adaptation so far, seems fine to me, not sure why you think it's bad O_o

            Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.

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              Jason Maranto @myskaros last edited by Jan 23, 2020, 7:25 PM

              @myskaros have you read the novels? The anime has cut so much as to become incomprehensible... many of the decisions to cut information they made now will come back to haunt them later in the story. There is zero drama, tension or even emotion... bad direction/storyboards or bad script (or both).

              I get that it is a small studio without much budget but they should probably not have taken on an ambitious series like Dendro. Their limited capabilities seem better suited to CGDCT anime.

              https://ncode.syosetu.com/n5947gj/

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                endoftheline last edited by Jan 23, 2020, 8:00 PM

                I've read the novels, and so far I haven't seen anything out of the ordinary or unexpected with the adaptation.

                @Jason-Maranto I'm not sure what you mean by the anime has become incomprehensible due to cuts. There's plenty of information in the novels that, if included in the anime, would literally make the anime incomprehensible. Can you provide something more concrete?

                FWIW, I never got a sense of drama, tension or emotion from the novels themselves, so it's fair to me that the anime would lack those qualities as well. I'd have to reread the first novel to see if I can divine why I don't get a sense from the novel, but I believe I'm recalling the novels being pretty consistent in telling me how I should be feeling rather than trying to draw me into what the character was feeling.

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                • jcochran
                  jcochran @Jason Maranto last edited by Jan 23, 2020, 8:13 PM

                  @jason-maranto Considering that I started the series about a week ago and am currently on number 9, I'm not really seeing a whole lot being cut. Of course the anime doesn't have the same level of detail as the light novel, but that's pretty much a requirement due to the nature of the media. And right now the anime is at the end of chapter six of volume 1. So what are you considering to be so critical that they've omitted?

                  Morning and Mourning sound alike for good and sufficient reasons.

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                  • Raitoiro
                    Raitoiro Premium Member last edited by Jan 23, 2020, 8:37 PM

                    After seeing ep 2 and 3 I agree with @Jason-Maranto, I wouldn't put it on the same level of bad as Ragnarok or Arifureta just yet but it's true that it felt rush and badly done. That slow-motion they tried to do when Ray is fleeing the superior killer looked ridiculous and the art for most of ep 3 looked really bad especially during fights, plus the characters look kinda derpy half the time.
                    But more importantly, the scene when Nemesis realizes that hasn't she been an embryo she would have been dead was rushed, when it should have been where they put most of their resources since that aspect of the series is what makes I.D. more than a generic VRMMO "isekai" with an op MC.
                    I hope they don't screw Gouz-Maise arc, it was by far the best part of the LN, and I feel like they're gonna censor it and maybe remove or cut the lich POV.

                    Do you like death, war and misery ?
                    Do you like badass op loli who let nobody got in their way ?
                    Do you like vengeance story?
                    If so then then vote for The girl who ate a death god

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                    • myskaros
                      myskaros Staff last edited by Jan 23, 2020, 8:53 PM

                      Yes, I've read the books. No, I don't find the anime rushed or problematic at all. Is it the best it could possibly be? No, there are a lot of things that could be improved. Is it so bad that I'd stop watching it (like I did with Ragnarok)? Uhh, not even close.

                      Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.

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                      • Jon Mitchell
                        Jon Mitchell Premium Member last edited by Jan 23, 2020, 9:19 PM

                        for whatever reason - when Dendrogram was on catch-up (and when it was new) I just couldn't seem to get 'into' it (the LN) it seems like SAO wannabe or generic life in a video game. In retrospect- I didn't give it a chance. I find that I am enjoying the anime and am looking forward to it going on catch up next time so that I can dive in -- the anime did it's job (for me at least) and provided entertainment (good enough entertainment) for me to get interested in the LN. Is the anime the best anime ever? no. High art? definitely not. A slightly goofy diversion full of bear puns that might lead to a more dramatic story later...yea I can see that.

                        I like the angle that in game you actually end up empathizing w/ NPCs - quests have consequences if not completed successfully

                        I read banned books

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                            yumenokage Premium Member @Jon Mitchell last edited by yumenokage Jan 24, 2020, 3:52 AM Jan 24, 2020, 3:50 AM

                            @jon-mitchell said in Infinite Dendrogram - Anime Discussion:

                            for whatever reason - when Dendrogram was on catch-up (and when it was new) I just couldn't seem to get 'into' it (the LN) it seems like SAO wannabe or generic life in a video game. In retrospect- I didn't give it a chance. I find that I am enjoying the anime and am looking forward to it going on catch up next time so that I can dive in -- the anime did it's job (for me at least) and provided entertainment (good enough entertainment) for me to get interested in the LN. Is the anime the best anime ever? no. High art? definitely not. A slightly goofy diversion full of bear puns that might lead to a more dramatic story later...yea I can see that.

                            I like the angle that in game you actually end up empathizing w/ NPCs - quests have consequences if not completed successfully

                            Having read all the Dendro LNs that are currently out in English and the first few Sword Art Online LNs, I believe Dendro is much better written overall, has more consistently good characters, and flows a lot better than SAO, at least in regard to what I have read of each. Especially for the Aincrad arc, I really think the anime cleaned it up a lot in SAO's case, and it's one of the few series where I've seen both the anime adaptation and read the LN it was based off of that I'd recommend the anime over the LN (and strongly).

                            License Wishlist: Kino's Journey, Crest/Banner anthology, SukaMoka
                            Favorite JNC Series (tried): Bookworm, Faraway Paladin, Infinite Dendrogram, Grimgar, Crest/Banner of the Stars, Der Werwolf, The Skull Dragon's Precious Daughter, Apothecary Diaries

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                            • Paul Nebeling
                              Paul Nebeling Premium Member last edited by Jan 24, 2020, 4:05 AM

                              I've got the advantage(?) of being in the Philippines right now with limited amounts of data and definitely not a good enough signal to stream videos on. I'll get to do a binge catchup when I get back to the states.

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                                LeinadE Premium Member last edited by Jan 24, 2020, 4:32 PM

                                The anime is no masterpiece, that might be true. But so far, they did a good job.
                                The fights are not too long, which is good given the limited number of episodes. Overall it is far from being as bad as Ragnarok or Arifureta.

                                What do you think, how far will they get story wise? Gouze Maise is a given. But will we also see Franklyn attacking Gideon?

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                                • jcochran
                                  jcochran @LeinadE last edited by Jan 24, 2020, 5:20 PM

                                  @leinade Don't know. But since they've almost completed volume 1 with 3 episodes, gonna assume about the same rate of adaption, so they should finish up the cour with either volume 3, or volume 4 of the LN. Both volumes 3 & 4 end with cliffhangers, but there seems to be more closure with the volume 4 cliffhanger, so I'd bet on the cour ending with volume 4.

                                  Morning and Mourning sound alike for good and sufficient reasons.

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                                  • Paul Nebeling
                                    Paul Nebeling Premium Member @LeinadE last edited by Jan 25, 2020, 11:25 PM

                                    @leinade Well, they did cast Yoshitsugu Matsuoka as Franklin, so maybe?

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                                    • xdrfiredogx
                                      xdrfiredogx Premium Member last edited by Jan 26, 2020, 3:05 PM

                                      Well, the animation itself can be problematic, though I don't think it's actually bad. Most of us are just probably spoiled to some extent by how good larger studios can make fights look.

                                      As far as the adaptation goes, I think it's doing just fine. It's a fairly straightforward adaptation really, there shouldn't be and have not been much in the way of surprises.

                                      The anime version Marie Adler has probably been the highlight so far, as far as bringing the characters to life.

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                                        LeinadE Premium Member last edited by Jan 30, 2020, 7:35 PM

                                        Wow, this anime is progressing fast. Even I wouldn't mind if the fight this time would have been longer.....It felt a bit anticlimatic.
                                        Nevertheless, it is impressive how they still show everthing crucial for the story so it doesn't get confusing without knowing the story from the LN.

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                                          cosm1cfall last edited by Apr 5, 2020, 12:19 PM

                                          Hey there, so Infinite Dendrogram has always been my what if series. Early onto my JNC membership, Arifureta and this were both on catchup and I've stuck with Arifureta ever since.

                                          So anyway, I've finished the anime, how many volumes did it cover? Was it covered well? Should I start with volume 1?

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