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Hidan no Aria (Aria the Scarlet Ammo)
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@onyx-archer said in Hidan no Aria (Aria the Scarlet Ammo):
"Unpopular" kinda seems like a bit of a stretch, given that some titles JNC has put out are kind of obscure, at least as far as I can tell.
There's one big difference between Aria and JNC's obscure licenses though. And that's volume count. Most JNC series had fewer than 10 volumes published when they were licensed (less risk). Now compare that to Aria's 30 and the fact that it's still ongoing.
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@DoubleMangekyo
I know, I'm aware that series that are up and coming pose less risk, because the licenses are cheaper, among other things. I'm just saying that Aria being seen as "Unpopular" when compared to something like... really half of what JNC puts out is a bit much. Especially considering the fact that Aria's first stab at being licensed was before Light Novels really took off, and because the publisher wasn't really known for light novels outside of I believe two other titles that are, at least as far as I can tell by looking at them, extremely different from Aria in tone and such.It doesn't really strike me as Aria being "unpopular," and more a case of bad circumstances. Again, the fan translation (regardless of how good it was) did get pretty far into development before being iced, and that doesn't really happen if something is unpopular? At least, it doesn't strike me as being "unpopular," in the way that something like, say, Inukami is unpopular, seeing as I never really hear anyone talk about that series. The fact that there is even a discussion being had at all about Aria's license shows the fans are there, and want it. Heck, Funimation licensing Aria AA at all tells me they believe there is a market for Aria, so...
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Well setting fans aside, general readers (aka the regular consumers) have by now likely forgotten this series even existed. Its popular in Japan, but then again most popular series in japan are million sellers, but the west? >.>
I doubt they can even pull a Rokujyouma here either, first they'd need to rescue and grab the license of 1-5 from DMI or whatever they're called, then they need to negotiate for 25+ more volumes, on top of that they need a crazy effective translator and editor with no social life and next of kin to lock away in some damp dark basement to work on this 24/7/365 to get at least 15 volumes out within the first year to gain interest and a foothold. >.>;;
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@JeremyTMH
I think you're overstating how fast they'd need to work to even gain a foot hold. It's really just a matter of being able to consistently release material on a schedule, and having a translator do work. If they went about translating 15 books in a year, they'd be screwing themselves over big time. I don't think spamming releases like that is going to do anyone any favors, especially because of the law of diminishing returns. The books only need to come out every 3-4 months, depending on the page counts.I mean, look at Index, it's a series that launched in the west relatively late in the game (hell, a followup had been started by the time it got it's first book put out here), and it's doing okay. Yeah, Index was already popular by the times the books came out, but at the same time, it's a series that is long (especially if you take New Testament into account) that is being released gradually (I believe it's like, 3 books a year?), and isn't suffering. Then again, it also has the backing of a well established publisher of Light Novels backing it, and not some obscure company like DMI.
I believe someone on a thread here said that Light Novel licenses are handled on a book by book basis, or in small bundles. It also kind of depends on what kind of license DMI has over the first few volumes of Aria, as for all we know, it's a license that expires within a set time frame if nothing is done with it. For all we know, DMI could just be letting the license run out, because the first two volumes failed to meet expectations due to the factors I mentioned previously. It certainly wouldn't be unheard of, given the fact that Viz's license for Shana ran out at some point.
Either way, I don't think a situation akin to Rokujouma is out of the question, given that Aria's, at least as far as I'm aware, is a more popular title. I don't think the length of this particular series is the biggest deciding factor; I think that it's more a matter of it being a series owned by Kadokawa is a more likely reason why licensing difficulties arise.
Kadokawa may be working out details to have Yen On release it, since they are the majority owners of Yen Press as a whole, which wasn't the case when DMI initially acquired the license. As I believe Adam Arnold said once in the Seven Seas Forums (I believe he was talking about the Index manga license at the time), Yen Press gets first dibs on all Kadokawa based licenses. Assuming the license for Aria expired, Kadokawa may be weighing their options, especially after the failure of the DMI releases. Same could be said for Shana's Viz release too, really, but I still remain hopeful, especially after the fan translation for Shana got C&D'd. It gives me hope that they are planning something.
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@onyx-archer said in Hidan no Aria (Aria the Scarlet Ammo):
@JeremyTMH
I think you're overstating how fast they'd need to work to even gain a foot hold. It's really just a matter of being able to consistently release material on a schedule, and having a translator do work. If they went about translating 15 books in a year, they'd be screwing themselves over big time. I don't think spamming releases like that is going to do anyone any favors, especially because of the law of diminishing returns. The books only need to come out every 3-4 months, depending on the page counts.I mean, look at Index, it's a series that launched in the west relatively late in the game (hell, a followup had been started by the time it got it's first book put out here), and it's doing okay. Yeah, Index was already popular by the times the books came out, but at the same time, it's a series that is long (especially if you take New Testament into account) that is being released gradually (I believe it's like, 3 books a year?), and isn't suffering. Then again, it also has the backing of a well established publisher of Light Novels backing it, and not some obscure company like DMI.
I believe someone on a thread here said that Light Novel licenses are handled on a book by book basis, or in small bundles. It also kind of depends on what kind of license DMI has over the first few volumes of Aria, as for all we know, it's a license that expires within a set time frame if nothing is done with it. For all we know, DMI could just be letting the license run out, because the first two volumes failed to meet expectations due to the factors I mentioned previously. It certainly wouldn't be unheard of, given the fact that Viz's license for Shana ran out at some point.
Either way, I don't think a situation akin to Rokujouma is out of the question, given that Aria's, at least as far as I'm aware, is a more popular title. I don't think the length of this particular series is the biggest deciding factor; I think that it's more a matter of it being a series owned by Kadokawa is a more likely reason why licensing difficulties arise.
Kadokawa may be working out details to have Yen On release it, since they are the majority owners of Yen Press as a whole, which wasn't the case when DMI initially acquired the license. As I believe Adam Arnold said once in the Seven Seas Forums (I believe he was talking about the Index manga license at the time), Yen Press gets first dibs on all Kadokawa based licenses. Assuming the license for Aria expired, Kadokawa may be weighing their options, especially after the failure of the DMI releases. Same could be said for Shana's Viz release too, really, but I still remain hopeful, especially after the fan translation for Shana got C&D'd. It gives me hope that they are planning something.
While I agree on some points, comparing Hidan to Index is not a very good comparison. Index is almost always at the top in LN popularity sale rankings and now finally even season 3 which promises up till the end of the final arc for the series is being adapted all the way (albeit extremely rushed.). Hidan doesn't have anything, I only even recently remembered it existed only because I spotted it on Rightstuf because of the seasonal sale and was going... Oh this existed! Index also has a bigger advantage as its translation are up to the latest volume for fan translations, therefore fan interest is still strong. of course this might be a major turnoff also for a publisher since its questionable if fans will buy but i believe its less of a risk then Rokujouma would be if you compare size of fanbase.
Hidan can't be like Rokujouma because unlike rokujouma where fan translation have reached further and are more constant, Hidan's barely at the halfway mark, and the downtime due to licensing didn't help. I said 15 volumes out first is largely due to it needing that as a foothold to gain interest first, after that slowly release every 3-4 months until they catch up if possible.
The reason for 15 is simple, having read this I think the story only really picked up after Vol 9 or 10? To be blunt its damn boring, or rather, its very slow to build up, I only started getting initially hooked after Sherlock appeared for its first major story arc.
Shana is a bigger problem since its story was complete, i doubt anyone wants to take a gamble to do a rescue of the license since while I agree its popular in its time during its run, its pretty much a 'dead' series now. It'd be nice if it was rescued and published but who wants to be the hero? Probably same applies to Hidan really.
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It'd be awesome if JNC would rescue and translate Aria the scarlet ammo, I enjoyed the anime and unfortunately, I bought the volume 1 e-book by digital manga guild (who just stopped translating it after 2 volumes). while the chances are slim (as I know the world of licencing is a very complex) I'd happily buy volume 1 again if it was picked up by JNC.
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This series is already licenced?!?,its on sale on amazon since 2013!!! but only 2 vol. tho.....sigh
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@theredjet yes that is why it has been referred to as a “rescue” DMP Licensed it a few years back and never did anything past V2...
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@theredjet yes it looks like we will never see past V2, especially since DMP is still selling the digital editions that means they still hid the license.
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Cover for Vol.31 releasing June 20th
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For me I'd personally put my life on the line for this light novel to be english translated. I'm not to much a gun maniac or anything that extreme I just kinda love the actions in it and how there's a ranking system and etc...
However, the main reason as to why I would do anything to get this light novel english translated would be the romance w/ comedy. Since I shipped Aria X Kinji and as for fans that are dedicated and love this series I'm pretty sure you've search the net over and over looking for the english translation of this light novel (just like me), and knows that
That should just about explain why I would also like a english translation of this light novel. However, thanks to Baka-Tsuki I can at least read up to volume 15 but it is quite behind since volume 31 is already released.
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@dragongamer68 Hi sir, please spoiler your things for people who don't read fan translations or otherwise don't want to be spoiled.
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@dragongamer68 I would recommend purchasing the 2 ebook volumes that have been officially translated into English years ago to show all the companies involved that people still want more translated. I’ve heard they have a ton of errors, though.
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@legitpancake, Already done that quite a while ago. I even purchased the original light novel (meaning in Japanese) from volume 1 to volume 30 even though I can't read in Japanese, the extent I go just to raise the chance of a English translation is quite far isn't it... I'm even buying volume 31 in Japanese right now as I'm typing this...
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@legitpancake said in Hidan no Aria (Aria the Scarlet Ammo):
@dragongamer68 I would recommend purchasing the 2 ebook volumes that have been officially translated into English years ago to show all the companies involved that people still want more translated. I’ve heard they have a ton of errors, though.
It's worse than that. For the second volume, they screenshotted the text and put the images into an ebook. You literally have to read the text off a jpeg. And when you open the book, the pages don't even fill the screen. You have to zoom in on each image so the text will be big enough to read, and the resolution is so low there are noticeable artifacts around each letter.
The first volume isn't quite as bad -- the formatting is a mess, but at least it has actual text -- however, I wouldn't recommend buying either one. Digital Manga is so incompetent I don't want anyone encouraging them.
By the way, Akamatsu has another series called Cheers! about a high school cheerleading squad. There's less violence but more fan service. And at only four volumes so far, it's a much better target for licensing.
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@sean-o-hara, Thank you for the recommendation but I'm still a much larger fan of Hidan no Aria. Since Hidan no Aria and Toradora was the two anime that convince me to become a Otaku (coincidentally both Ryuji and Kinji has the same voice actor and same for Taiga and Aria which also has the same voice actress). Even Bleach, One Piece, etc... was never able to really convince me. But there's just something special about Hidan no Aria and Toradora that other anime wasn't able to offer me or appeal to me.
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@sinnoaria, I honestly wish Yen Press would have gotten the license instead of DMI.
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@dragongamer68 Looking at what titles DMP still has available, I get the impression that they specialize in yaoi, with a side order of yuri, and the occasional title that falls in their lap. They probably picked up Henneko just because it had "hentai" and "prince" in the title, implying yaoi...
